Since the break...

Other teams 60, Pirates 15

Our batting average: .191

Total hits in 8 games: 50 (6.25 per game)

Starting pitchers' record: 1-7 (so take Rick White off the hook this time)

Starters ERA: 8.49

Average innings per start: 5.17

Let's run those numbers again without the rookies, Snell and Duke: 0-6, 10.80, 4.72 (yep, Snell's 5 inning, 5 run start was one of our best).

This one's just an FYI, with a loss tomorrow, Lloyd McClendon falls to 321-421. Yep, 100 games under .500 in less than five years. Is that a record for a manager? At some point he his record will speak for itself. Wait, it's already speaking, at some point it's going to scream. Or maybe that's just me.

The players certainly aren't great, but no one is THIS bad.